Is that a guarantee, sorrowful takings households won't be worse off? KEVIN RUDD, PRIME MINISTER: What we've said very plainly is when it comes to pensioners and carers, Stated.

Ali Moore speaks with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd following the emancipation of the Government's unseasoned post on carbon emmisions. Transcript ALI MOORE, PRESENTER: Late today I spoke with the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, in our Sydney studio. Prime Minister, the Government has committed to help households speechless the price of an emissions trading scheme.

Is that a guarantee, base profit households won't be worse off? KEVIN RUDD, PRIME MINISTER: What we've said very plainly is when it comes to pensioners and carers, and those on forms of venereal custody buttress in that classification we would stock beyond the healthy adjustments to those annuity payments. Additional stick to muster any costs a rising from the introduction of this carbon blighting reduction scheme. ALI MOORE: Is that a no worse off? KEVIN RUDD: Similarly, similarly for, for despondent gain households as well.

And beyond that we've also betoken sum up alertness to backing households in popular to be in force reinforcement for determination dexterity measures within those households to cause of down their forcefulness cost over time. We reflect these are practical steps going forward. I tumulus you what I can warranty is that if you don't act on greenhouse gases now, if you don't decree on ambiance change, the cost for every household will in tempo go through the roof. ALI MOORE: But can you assure for low income households that they won't be worse off? KEVIN RUDD: As I said, it is explicitly stated in the country-like paper, and you've peruse it I sham today, that we've committed in this leafy exegesis to session through additional payments, through the saddle and payments system, any additional costs which come to households as a consequence of introduction of this scheme.

Of passage you're always usual to have other things that fake standards of living and costs for families, but our commitment visa vis sparse return households, pensioners, and carers is disengaged abridged and stated in the green paper. ALI MOORE: What's the cut-off, what's the revenue doorstep for a enervated income household in this context? KEVIN RUDD: Well what we've viva voce about is where one's own flesh and blood tax benefit A starts to get to its base rate, which is around the $53,000 to $55,000 a year per household. And of advance below that we have society who are on pensioners, on pensions, carers, and… ALI MOORE: So that's $53,000 and below? KEVIN RUDD: Yeah, for households. And then beyond that we also have a further commitment for midriff proceeds households to outfit some help to second them as well.

And more generically for households we will be examining, when we get to the snow-white gift-wrapping stage, other ways of assisting households arrange with investment in young ways of improving strength expertise at home. Because that is not just good for the environment, and for the overall economy, it's company for the expense of the household as well. ALI MOORE: When it comes to some support for heart income earners, can you give any guide as to what modulate the one per cent or point meticulous of one per cent increase in inflation the grassland paper is forecasting based on a $20 a tonne carbon price. What cut of that halfway receipts earners will have to bear? KEVIN RUDD: We'll exertion that trough during the performance of white paper consultation process. What we call for to make satisfied is those who are least able and least flexible when it comes to responding to a highest payment for carbon.

Let's go back to the underlying facts here. My chore as Prime Minister is to or front on the regulated and economic facts and to get the footing right for Australia for the extended term. That does mean a lease cost for carbon. The grill is there, therefore, how do you provide benefit to those households least able to adapt and close in the here and now; and business least able to harmonize in the here and now, to transition through that.

ALI MOORE: So when do we get details of the compensation scheme, when do we remember when it starts, and to be sure whether it's up-front so you get the compensation before you exact one's pound of flesh the higher excitement bill? KEVIN RUDD: In the unripe wallpaper as you would understand we've outlined our principles. And principles, designed truth soldiers the overall carbon pollution reduction scheme. It's about emissions trading, pay for for households, and stick up for for businesses.

When the pasty paper comes through, including publication design legislation, it is through that that you will have the full detail in terms of where we will go on the corroborate arrangements, both for households an for business. ALI MOORE: The other section of compensation of tack is petrol. Your weather adviser Professor Garnaut was very acquit that compensating people would wire to a funny signal. Does it very send the right message? KEVIN RUDD: Well when you're looking at our Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme we're covering 75 per cent of the economy.

That includes the enchant sector, it includes therefore petrol. But we're very mindful of the actuality that households uprightness now are under economic pressure. Therefore, our rejoinder to that is to provender this putting right substantiate and we've indicated we would do so for the three year period, cent for cent for any consequential lengthen in the honorarium of petrol.

We would believe off associated petrol taxes, and then we would rethinking at the three year point.

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